It’s not what you say, but how we read it

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  1. Charisma says:

    This is the only version of D&D that I’ve played, so I’ll be happy to see another version, if that’s what this is.

  2. Elda King says:

    I understood from the article itself that both versions would be compatible, and was wondering wether it would be a new class that could play alongside the old or a new build.
    There is one great thing about this: they are dropping (more than with the PHB3) the needless symetry between classes. I never understood why every class needed to gain the same kind of powers in the same levels.
    Unfortunately, it’s unlikely the Red Box will ever be translated to my language, so it’s not so big a deal for new players (who may not speak English).

  3. Elton says:

    I’m playing Pathfinder. :)

  4. Anarkeith says:

    I’ve got a number of players at my table who would love Essentials builds of their characters. They’ll be playing alongside powergamers, so it’s good to hear that Essentials is akin to an alternate build.

  5. Jay says:

    I think his post can be summed up best by the following:

    “The Most Important Thing to Remember

    If you’re already playing a Dungeons & Dragons game, there’s one very important thing to remember—the Essentials products matter only as much as you want them to.”

    …ah, yes! The very definition of the word “essential” is something easily disposable!

    They need to have a serious talk with the marketing dept.

    • greywulf says:


      You make a good point very well.

      Think of them as “Essential”, but…… “Optional”.

      Yeah. Optionally essential. That would work.

      Or Essentially optional. Take your pick.

      • DarkTouch says:

        I took the name to be ‘Essential’ as in the phrase ‘Just the Essentials’. Ie. The rules essential to playing D&D. Fighter, Magic-user, Cleric, Thief. They probably could have gotten away with reprinting those essential classes from the player’s handbook but I think a lot of buyers would have avoided the product rather than going for the ‘real’ game in the books.

  6. x-humed says:

    That’s fine until those new players want to play with a group who aren’t using essentials rules. It’s not going to introduce them to D&D 4e it’s going to introduce them to a different game. It’s re-creating that D&D/AD&D problem. A player of one thinks they can player the other and is soon lost.

    • greywulf says:

      That’s the whole point – they can play. A Rogue created using D&D Essentials would work perfectly well in a game mixing it up with a Fighter created with the Core rules – or another Rogue for that matter. They’re “essentially” (pardon the pun) different builds, that’s all.

      Sure, their powers and abilities are going to be perhaps a little simpler that one of the Core class builds (and definitely simpler than a build from the splatbooks) but it’s no less valid or less D&D. The rules are the same, just easier to understand.

      That’s the theory, anyhow. I’m looking forward to seeing what it’s like in full…..

  7. Crose87420 says:

    I think me and the Essentials Compendium are going to be very happy together.
    Hmm, if we’re running an Essentials rules only game what do we call it? Essentials? “Hey, you wanna play some Essentials tonight?”…Sounds like it should be said with a deep voice and a glass of Courvoisier in hand…What could we call it…hmm…


  8. I’m still playing 3.5 actually. If my current group goes in any direction other than 3.5, it’ll be either be PRPG or M&M (3e if i can hold of long enough lol) fantasy.

  9. KingMudkip says:

    Amen, brother!
    I’m seriously disappointed by this, and I’m not one of those people that like 4e. I was under the impression that we were getting some sort of Holy Grail of combined D&D rules, but now it turns out we’re getting D&D For 5’th Graders (a.k.a. D&D 4.5, a.k.a. The System That Should Not Have Been).
    Dang it, I’m frustrated now! Maybe I should just buy Pathfinder and officially renounce WotC, now that Star Wars RPG is dead. Buy my Dark Sun books first, though… ;)

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